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The Former Lawyer Podcast

Sep 9, 2019

On today’s show, Sarah talks with Heidi Mueller. Heidi is a former lawyer who is now the Director of the Illinois Department of Juvenile Justice. 

In this conversation, Heidi shares about:

  • Why she had an inkling that she might want to leave law firm life even before she started;
  • How she struggled with guilt over the fact that she didn’t like working as a big firm lawyer;
  • The article she read that affirmed her decision to leave;
  • Why she freaked out just as she was leaving her firm, even though she knew she wanted to leave;
  • How she got hired for multiple jobs after leaving the law firm without ever again applying for a job;
  • How a complete stranger was the person who seemed most disturbed by her choice to leave law practice;
  • Why therapy can be so helpful when you are making a decision about leaving the law;
  • How you can get more involved in juvenile justice work if you’re interested;
  • and much more!

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